Riders (and their fans) can’t ignore the fight and what it means

Pretend nothing happened.

That’s usually the modus operandi for a professional football team when something happens. But it’s difficult to plead ignorance when your self-centred, star receiver — in this case, the Saskatchewan Roughriders’ Duron Carter — tells the world through social media he might be leaving the CFL team following a little-noticed, in-practice, knuckle-chucking fight with a teammate.

Cue the finger-pointing and fear among the CFL’s most rabid fanbase. It was sparked by media reports that Carter and practice-roster linebacker Sam Williams, a rookie who didn’t attend the next day’s practice, were encouraged to fight by an unnamed coach and thwarted by veteran receiver Bakari Grant. Initial reports, quickly denied by the Roughriders, indicated the players involved had been suspended or released.

Following a practice that had beforehand been closed to media and fans, it was obvious Carter and his teammates had been told to be careful in interviews regarding the previous day’s events.

Grant said absolutely nothing. That goes against Carter’s nature — following Saskatchewan’s crushing 33-32 loss Friday against the Ottawa Redblacks, who scored 12 points in the final three minutes, he was gushing about catching 11 passes for 231 yards and surpassing 1,000 yards for the first time in his four CFL seasons. Wait a minute, didn’t the team just lose? Exactly one year after being released by the Montreal Alouettes for fighting with teammates while with the Montreal Alouettes, Carter did confess he didn’t know if he was going to play in Friday’s game against the Calgary Stampeders.

So . . . will anyone be disciplined, cut, suspended, benched or fined? Roughriders boss Chris Jones told the media he wouldn’t disclose any discipline, provide any details or worry about a run-of-the-mill “football” altercation. Jones said players have regularly fought on every team he has coached, yet some of those teams have won championships. He wants players who are willing to fight for something.

True enough. But most football fights occur during training camp. Fights occur less frequently late in the regular season, particularly when a team has rebounded from a slow start to become a contender, like the Roughriders, with their 8-7 record and needing one victory to qualify for the playoffs.

Something disruptive happened. Indeed. The Roughriders and their fans can downplay it as much as they want, it’s something the team, the players and the coaches have to deal with. Carter has to be a good teammate, not just a supremely talented individual, respected by all the coaches and the defensive players. Since the incident, cornerback Jovon Johnson, a defensive captain, has been fairly forthcoming with his descriptions and his support for Carter. That’s a good sign.

Pretending nothing happened, or that nothing has to be dealt with, might shield the truth from the fans and media, but locking it inside the locker room makes it fester. If it isn’t treated properly, it becomes infected. And this isn’t a good time of the season for that to happen to the Roughriders.

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Darrell Davis

Darrell Davis has reported on the Riders for more than 20 years and was inducted into the Canadian Football Hall of Fame media wing in 2006.
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Darrell Davis has reported on the Riders for more than 20 years and was inducted into the Canadian Football Hall of Fame media wing in 2006.

108 Comments on Riders (and their fans) can’t ignore the fight and what it means

  1. Greenland // October 17, 2017 at 7:33 pm //

    Give it a rest already. Nobody is ignoring what happened. But seriously, how many so called reporters does it take to report a story. Let it go.

    • Since Pederson was the only one of the whole bunch of media at practice who saw what happened, it must take an awful lot.

    • The Iceman // October 18, 2017 at 8:02 am //

      Don’t let it go. Sounds like a crime was committed. Lets get to the bottom of this dysfunctional mess. Second year in a row Carter has fought with teammates. Let just forget about it because dude can ball.

      • theonlydispassionateriderfan // October 18, 2017 at 11:29 am //

        Technically, last season it was Rakeem Cato and Kenny Stafford. Carter wasn’t involved until he stepped in to break them up and Cato went after him. That story(like this one) was misappropriated from the start by the media. Yes Carter and Cato went at it, that’s a fact. But Carter wasn’t the instigator, just like this scenario(Sam Williams clearly started it). Jovon Johnson, who was a witness to both has backed this up. Carter’s involvement is undeniable but the notion he is the problem isn’t supported by eye witness accounts. In both instances, he has reacted not instigated. The media wants to write their own story because fiction is juicier than facts. And clearly it’s worked because here we all are, reading and commenting. The media got exactly what they wanted from this.

    • It seems to me that the team is handling it. They are a business that has decided to handle it their way without media and fan involvement. The only ones upset seem to be the media.

  2. If it had been two rookies doing to same thing you guys wouldn’t even waste a breathe about this. And I’ll tell you in pro sports these things happen more often than you think. But somehow when Carter’s involved it’s something that every reporter can’t get enough of and report things that aren’t even true like they had been flown right oout of town. So other than keeping the CFL in the news this is a nothing story

  3. I know more than you think // October 17, 2017 at 7:45 pm //

    There is truth in all of this. Of course they have to downplay it! Duh! What else are they going to do? I know for a fact Duron is not well-liked on this team. But if you really think anyone, let alone a teammate, is going to come out and publicly state that, you’re dreaming. Duron is simply lucky that he’s a good player or he’d be gone. Trust me, his antics have worn thin. And Jovan Johnson is just as big of a slime ball but hides it better. So one goof defending another Isn’t saying much. Someone on the team purposely leaked this for a reason.

  4. Ridersfan // October 17, 2017 at 7:56 pm //


  5. Darrell Davis is clueless. He doesn’t have a sniff about what actually happened but crucifies Duron Carter anyway.

    • Davis is just as angry and spiteful as he always has been. Knew him from the neighborhood growing up and he was not very athletic or talented, despite his desires. So he turned to referee (sucked big time at that) and then reporting. His negativity has never changed and he remains bitter to this day. See the story above, or any others he penned this year… they are all the same.

  6. We need to find out what this “MEANS”. It is a very important issue to a flock of media personnel who are baffled by grown men having an altercation. I think we need to convene a panel of learned people who will not only analyze this issue but also determine how the collective IQ of all the media covering this story is still only double digits. A very sad predicament.

  7. Dick Rubnutz // October 17, 2017 at 8:27 pm //

    Darrell, you’re absolutely clueless. Hit the bottle

    • Looks like he does regularly.

    • Typical sliders fans run their mouth to defend a guy who is a star on their team but if Carter was on another team they would be yapping about him ,as for your stupid comment about this hall of fame reporter he knows way mor than you will ever know about the CFL and with your self appointed name like you made up it is obvious that you OWN the bottle and your on to much of that green kook aid

    • Tiger man // October 18, 2017 at 9:08 am //

      So, you slander a reporter who has better access to the team than you do.

      And you take the side of a player who has a well documented history of being a problem child.

      I would suggest that YOU need some sober thinking.

      But, then again this is the town that vandalized a kicker lawn because he failed to win a game for them…

  8. PARiderfan // October 17, 2017 at 8:34 pm //

    The football media are very predictable especially Davis. Funny how they hold themselves in such high regard and group us, the fans, with them. They love to say they are our conduit to the team. That might of been true years ago but now we get our info directly from the players on social media like Jovan Johnson. We don’t need them anymore and they know it and they hate players like Carter from cutting them out as the middle man. Get lost Davis we don’t need you anymore!

    • You nailed it!

    • Tiger man // October 18, 2017 at 9:10 am //

      Yeah, all Darrell does is provide truth…and what you guys want is a cheerleader…

      sorry for your luck..

      • Go back in hiding Tiger man. Have you ever met Duron Carter in person? No? Darrell is a perennial liar. What makes his word any better than anyone else? Just wondering.

      • Pedersen already fills that role in the rectangle, he’s a bigger pile of manure than the whiner fans dumped on players lawns.

  9. No wonder it’s Davis! Never anything good to say about the Riders anyways.

  10. He didn’t say what Rider fans want to hear so he is clueless. The stories out of Montreal last year were accepted as truth but do not say anything negative about Duron Carter now that he is a Rider.

    • I agree totally with you on this storey as sliders fans ignore any truth on their so called star player as long as they are on their team

      • Remember this is the fan base that now hates Durant, you know the guy who carried the franchise for all those years. #tirefire

        • Says who? People who don’t like Durant, generally never liked him. I feel sorry for him that he’s on such a mismanaged team.

  11. I’m not a Riders fan (more of a CFL and Duron Carter fan) but Darrell you’re either annoyed you missed it or your forgetting a lot of CFL history.

    From time to time in practice there are players who get wound up and toss a punch or two and in this case, it sure seems that Jovon Johnson has spoken up repeatedly and supports Carter.

    The 1994 Grey Cup winning Lions were notorious for locker room battles. Ask Danny McManus, he’s said this repeatedly.

    Ed Willes article on the Lions site: Remembering the 1994 Grey Cup has half that column on the crazies and fighting and here’s just a few lines:

    “We were a band of brothers,” says Danny McManus, who would engineer the win for the B.C. Lions. “We were fighting all the time. But when we went on the field we were a team in the truest sense of the term.”

    “The roster, in fact, was a weird amalgam of polished pros, born-again Christians and, without putting too fine an edge on things, certifiable whack jobs.

    “That was the year of all the crazies,” says Jamie Taras, the team’s right guard.

    “It was an interesting group,” says Tillman, the boy-GM who was hired with head coach Dave Ritchie by new Lions’ owner Bill Comrie in 1993. “Yes, it was an interesting group.””

    “Space considerations do not permit a full recounting of the Lions’ zanier moments. But here are a few. That season, the Leos fought. A lot. The opposition. Each other. It didn’t matter.”

    • greenrider89 // October 17, 2017 at 11:26 pm //

      Interesting comments, Greg. I remember the Riders, probably close to 25 years ago had a problem with two starting linebackers the team viewed as a cancer. Eventually, it was Bobby Jurasin that came forward and told the coaches, either both players leave, or he’s leaving. But in this case here, and which Darrell Davis refuses to recognize (and seems to try to light a fire), is that Jovon Johnson recognizes Carter as a teammate. Until Carter is viewed as a cancer, he definitely has my support to remain a Rider.

      • Exactly. If his teammates have such a big problem with him, why would they go bowling together, on their own time?

        • greenrider89 // October 18, 2017 at 1:31 pm //

          Yes, there’s a lot more to this story than just negativism, which unfortunately Dunk and several others try to bring the worst of because it creates chatter. Privately, I bet Justin has a whole wardrobe of Rider jerseys stashed away in his closet (lol).

  12. “What it means” is that the media are trolling Riders fans. No “Quarterback controversy” so find something else to write about.

  13. Facts seem to allude Davis in this case. The tweet had to do with tweeting less and not leaving the football team but where would the clickbait be in reporting the truth?

    • It’s not being reported because it’s NOT the truth. Carter tweeted just a couple of hours after the “It was fun” tweet, and has tweeted a bunch this afternoon. His last tweet as I write this was all of three hours ago.

      Some of you…You claim to want facts and truth, yet you get lied to and enjoy it because it’s what you want to hear.

      Carter once said “I always thought I could talk or play my way out of a situation.” He’s doing that right now and you guys are clapping like trained seals. Unreal.

      • Are you going to be able to sleep tonight donk a donk? It was a scrap – Carter was involved, get over it. Won’t be the last football scrap but hopefully the last one beaten to death.

        • Slept great. Hope you did too with your soulmate’s integrity being questioned all day. Hard to be hard on the feelings.

          You’re right that it won’t be the last football scrap. In fact, it probably won’t be the last one that Carter is a part of, either. May as well start writing your list of excuses now.

          • 3rd and 1 // October 18, 2017 at 8:44 am //

            Man you gotta let things go. You have every right to see things the way you want too. Yet everything I read cc oozes a disdain for things you have so little real information on. Social media has made some angry with very little information. If we can sit and judge with so little missinformation. I pity those who end up getting a guilty verdict in their lifetime for something they didn’t do. Or barely participated in but because they were around a few times when things happened. They found the information to be embellished or dramatized for better effect.

          • “I pity those who end up getting a guilty verdict in their lifetime for something they didn’t do.”

            And I have little patience for those who are incapable of taking responsibility for their actions. Or for enablers who excuse immature behaviour because they benefit peripherally.

          • “Or for enablers who excuse immature behaviour because they benefit peripherally.”
            Hmmmm CC really!? so does this include you childish Rider bashing?

          • No, because I haven’t bashed the Riders as an organization a single time. Your lack of sleep is probably causing you to confuse me with someone else.

          • I’m not hearing anything positive… nor can you get your mind off of these 7 or 8 stories of the riders dust up at practice. Maybe childish is the wrong term…Obsessive is more likely the answer.

          • What has Duron done to you anyways? You seem pretty butthurt over a nothing thing here.

          • “I’m not hearing anything positive…”

            That’s because I’m not Rod Pedersen. I didn’t comment on the organization either way. Just Carter specifically.

            As for being obsessive, may I respectfully point out that YOU’RE on all those threads too??

          • Why has this story garnered so much negative attention? because it was a Rider story. If they can’t write anything about a QB controversy, then they will make something up to pull clicks in. AKA a dust up at practice. Why beat a dead horse to the point is a pile of mush? It doesn’t make much sense. And frankly it’s just showing the true nature of these writers. They are not helping their reputations out with these non stories.

            Also I’m a die hard Rider fan. So yeah… Of course I’m going to comment on RIDER stories. You don’t see me going on to other teams stories(or lack there of) and start spewing hate. Just saying.

          • Don’t need a list….it’s football. Appreciate you following my team so closely.

      • Truth? You obviously can’t handle the truth. Here’s the truth. He said, “It was fun while it lasted… love y’all.” He didn’t say, “I’m off the team.” He could have been referring to anything. He could have been talking about his bowling game. He could have been talking about his scratch and win lottery ticket. He could have been yanking the chains of the tiny brained haters, like you. Your mind is so poisoned by hate that you’re reading into his comment what you want to believe. He was out bowling with his teammates last night for Pete’s sake. Does that seem like a guy who’s been kicked off the team? Here’s what we know. Sam Williams did something wrong – Williams not Carter – and Williams and Carter got into a scuffle. No one has been kicked off the team. The rest is just lies and spin by completely discredited bottom feeders like Madani and Davis.

        • Then if it was about ANY of those things, that’s what he should have said! When you leave “it” open-ended, you raise questions. That’s on him, foreign as that concept might seem to you.

          He’s a pro athlete. He knows as well as anybody how his message would be interpreted. Look at the responses he got. Over 100, mostly from FANS (not “haters”) worrying that he’d been released. Not a single one asked whether he’d finished scratching a losing lottery ticket.

          And if he WAS just fishing for a reaction then good for him. But if you don’t like that he got exactly what he wanted, take it up with him. That is, if you’re actually capable of keeping him accountable for anything.

          You know what else we know? The only other receiver involved was trying to break it up. Everyone else was capable of keeping a cool head about the incident. Carter is the only person who got heated up.

          But that’s because he’s “passionate”. He “passionately” swung at Breaux in a playoff game. He “passionately” walked into a coach. He “passionately” got into arguments twice with Rakeem Cato.

          Plenty of players have passion and don’t get in these situations.

          • “There was nothing in his tweet that affected the team or any one person or player.”

            Indeed. He can do whatever he wants with Twitter. He controls it. I just don’t buy that he initially meant (when he said “fun while it lasted”) that he was saying goodbye to Twitter when he tweeted again the same day then the following afternoon.

            I was told I couldn’t handle truth when there was no actual truth displayed. That’s what I’m responding to.

        • By the way…Why don’t you check out his Twitter feed yourself to see how “truthful” his claim of leaving Twitter is? Then tell me who can’t handle it.

          • 3rd and 1 // October 18, 2017 at 9:54 am //

            Why should anyone little loan a person who gets paid for entertaining people. Need to be concerned with laying out a Twitter in any other way than the way they do? There was nothing in his tweet that affected the team or any one person or player.
            What does he need to take responsibility for? You are believing an article that started all of this written by someone no where near the team emotionally or by location. You are ignoring the Head Coach, players and Carter himself. Instead you are pointing your finger at someone that you feel should be writing his twitters in line and in response to the Arash Madani article. That is just ludicrous.
            Carter was writing about his own events. Not responding to some dumb article about nothing.
            Arash writes those articles because it appeals to readers like yourself. Where most sports enthusiasts will read the article and then forget about it. Until they read comments from those who have been drawn in and duped.

          • “What does he need to take responsibility for?”

            The distractions that he is consistently a part of.

            “…you are pointing your finger at someone that you feel should be writing his twitters in line and in response to the Arash Madani article. That is just ludicrous.”

            It is. And inaccurate. The “fun while it lasted” tweet came BEFORE the reports of the fight. It caused people to question what he meant. That’s when everything began. Because of his history, people started questioning what happened. If he says nothing, or is specific to what was fun, no problems caused.

            Then he says he meant he was leaving Twitter…and doesn’t leave Twitter. Sorry if I find that lacks a little credibility.

            Williams may well have done something inappropriate at that practice. No excusing *him* from this. But every other QB/receiver present reacted in a way other than getting into a fight. If Carter displays their level of maturity, NOW it’s a non-issue handled in-house. He bears a large portion of the responsibility for this no matter how badly some people want to believe otherwise.

          • CC you do realize that Cato instigated the fights right? and that Carter was trying to stop it from happening. Also Should a head coach and his staff be past the white line on the sidelines? Pretty sure they have a rule saying that they can’t, you ever wonder why refs keep yelling at the coaches to get off the field, maybe he should have taken that hint. Pretty sure back when I played high school ball you weren’t even allowed to be anywhere close to the line. Just keep on hating sir

          • And just keep on making excuses for your boy, Rob. Or direct me to the one other person to knock over a coach in the last five decades or so. Of all people, it had to be poor Duron who found himself in hot water again.

            Man, that is one unlucky dude. Always in the wrong place at the wrong time!

          • Because Campbell doesn’t have an Ego…Riiiight!! He’s bred from the same cloth as Carter than.
            You do realize that he got suspended too… Again he was on the field while he wasn’t supposed to be and braced for the shoulder hit, like he was going to hit carter too. Make more excuses CC

  14. Blackhawk89 // October 17, 2017 at 9:58 pm //

    Funny whenever someone presents a point of view or opinion not looking through a myopic green tint is “clueless” or a “hater”

  15. justforkicks // October 17, 2017 at 10:01 pm //

    Time for moderation of the idiots allowed to write these endless mindless stories based on innuendo, rumour, speculation and obvious dislike of their subject. Why only moderate comments?

  16. justforkicks // October 17, 2017 at 10:02 pm //

    I’d rather read comments by old horsey than the crap being spewed by some “reporters”

    • Ummm… No. I’d rather read dingbat Darrell’s drivel than that of the 44 year old virgin. Or is it 45 now?

  17. I replied to wait with some comments about Montreal, but it says it’s waiting for moderation. Lmao, 1st time this site has done that to me.

  18. Truth be told..Carter is an exceptional ball player with an awful attitude and that is cancerous to any team..he literally cried about not getting the rock enough..a good coach would of sent him to the showers… Davis is the best at what he does and has been for decades..so stfu…

    • Sorry Mrs.Davis

    • 3rd and 1 // October 18, 2017 at 6:12 am //

      Sorry Wood E… you can stick up for your boy all you want. Yet if you read the majority of the comments on here towards Darrell Davis and his sour Rider commenting. You will find that he is not liked, not respected and most find his articles to be petty.
      So by trying to tell people to shut up. Your just making them want to speak out even more.

    • Lol Really The best at what he does!? Wood e you make me laugh! Dale from King of the Hill is not even close to the best at what he does. He’s a hack… that can’t stand to write anything positive about the Riders. But yet he magically covers them. He’s nothing but cabbage.

    • Well Wood e … you are dead wrong. Davis was and still is the worst beat reporter the Riders ever had. As the old saying goes, those no good at sports, write about it as if they were. That fits Davis to a tee.

    • The same things could be said of Arcenaux on BC and Bowman on Edmonton, they both have attitude problems… but nobody writes articles about it.

  19. Darrell Davis is horrible Mr Negative. I cant believe he still has a job I listen him on the radio while travelling through Sask and i had to shut them.off. Put this guy in the same pasture as Carm the Cfl will never gain popularity with guy like him reporting

    • Stick with Pedersen then. He’ll tell you everything you want to hear. Everything is rosy all the time, the organization can do no wrong.

      And when they do, it’s only because other franchises are jealous, the commissioner is out to get them, national media has it in for them, etc.

  20. Okay then, when you write about the Riders it had better be all sunshine and lollipops. Please keep any hard truth stories about other teams whose fans can handle it.

    • Give me a break Hard Truth ?
      Darrell is well past his prime even Nye gets sick of his BS

    • Wait, here’s a hard truth for you. 5 different Head coaches in 3 years in Montreal. What kind of structure or discipline do you think that gives the players?

      • Tiger man // October 18, 2017 at 9:17 am //

        And Saskatchewan have had 6 coaches in 7 years….

        So, what’s your point???

        • 6 coaches in 7 years!? lol I can safely say that 2 or 3 of those 6 coaches were nothing but fill in coaches. I guess if that’s what you want to bring up sure. Shall we start talking about your team and its stability right now Tiger man?

  21. Darrell has NOTHING remotely interesting to add. Please just stop Darrell, it’s embarrassing.

  22. If there is one CFL scribe who might be less credible and less respected than Madani it’s Darrell Davis. Note to the 3DN people. Remember how well respected Arielle Zerr was when she wrote her article? Remember how many people commented and said how much they respect her as a sports journalist in general? And on the other end of the spectrum, you must have noticed over many months now how nobody, NOBODY, has any respect for Darrell Davis? There is good reason for that, very good reason. You should not be associating yourselves with people like Darrell Davis, or Madani.

  23. Maybe they post tons of articles about this fight because they know thousands of Riders fans will click, comment, and share, even if they’re pissed off. It’s a business after all. You all complain about this site yet eat up every single article they post and drive traffic and ad revenue through the roof. Then you geriatric prairie hicks call anything you disagree with “fake news” because you heard some tool on the TV say it. I love this site but man, the readers really don’t deserve it sometimes.

  24. I hear tin foil hats are on sale at Mosaic. That way you can hear the voices more clearly. Psst, the boss says nothing to see here. Pass the word.

  25. Colour me green // October 18, 2017 at 1:09 am //

    non Story move on please.

  26. Please make sure Carter goes to Calgary. Watching Campell shut him down alllllll night long (like last time) is exactly what he, and Jones, need.

  27. I love that there was a fight at practice. Anyone who reads into this as anything more than competitive nature is an absolute idiot.

  28. lol @ all the rider priders chugging the green koolaid. nothing to see here. nothing going on. riiiiiiight. a coach encouraging a fight and a PR guy throwing knuckles with your “star” player.. you simply cannot make this stuff up. it’s damn near movie worthy lol.

    • Your boy Harris has attitude/discipline problems, like taking swings at opponents… but nobody writes articles about that.

  29. idiotwind // October 18, 2017 at 9:33 am //

    Leader Post clearly thinks there’s more to it. Jones should know by now stonewalling just feeds the beast.

  30. Prove me wrong // October 18, 2017 at 9:39 am //

    This kind of thing is indicative of how Jones runs a team. He will accept wife beaters, and any form of problem child just to win. Good on ya Gangrene, but you would think that in a one show province you would hold your team up to a slightly better standard.

    • Your team has never had troubled players eh? Man you guys are just model citizens over there(sarcasm by the way). As you your name says, Prove me wrong.

  31. riderontheisland // October 18, 2017 at 10:11 am //

    I am not ready this trash because the headline has me stopping right there. The only story that has come out of this is it’s all part of football and the media is the problem! enough said so go drum something up elsewhere.

  32. Darryl Davis is a colossal douche bag. He was as a kid, and even worse as a beat reporter for the Riders. Can Drew and his crew at 3DN please stop posting his hatred and obvious envy of those with talent.

  33. This guy is nothing but a hack, joke of a writer. The guys should just leave sask and go cover bomber games already. We already know he has a secret crush on them.

  34. Hey riderontheisland- I thought you were leaving? Poor guy, everyone dissing your beloved Roughies- go read Rod Peterson- you’ll be happier!!

  35. First and foremost Carter has to learn to grow up and hold his emotions in check. And most of all, shut his big fat mouth and act like,e he has been there before. Great talent no brains or discipline

  36. greenrider89 // October 18, 2017 at 1:35 pm //

    Hey, Rider fans. Let go of the issue. Reporters can report what they wish, even if it is “fake” news. All of the players, including Carter, will very likely be on the Rider roster come game day against Calgary. In fact, this happening (for what it’s worth) could be a real positive for the organization. A fire’s been lit, and it’s now up to the players to bring it on onto the playing field for Friday’s game. Go Green and White!!! Go, Duron Carter!!!

  37. Way it is // October 18, 2017 at 1:57 pm //

    Yeah fake news- fake news always follows Duron Carter for some reason!!

  38. greenrider89 // October 18, 2017 at 2:27 pm //

    And that’s the way it is (or was).

  39. Okay whiner fans we get it. Everyone here is out to get you and all whiner news is fake.
    Now could you please just go and spam up some other site that is maybe more to your liking and leave the grown ups to talk among ourselves.

  40. I gotta admit, the whiner fans are right this time…….Davis was wrong, they can ignore the truth.

  41. Way it is // October 18, 2017 at 3:14 pm //

    Thank you Tony- could not have said it any better!!!

  42. how can you believe arash madani when he is in chicago and writes a story about the riders like he was at the practise watching it. so where does he get off saying what he does when he has no idea of what actually happened.

  43. Duron Carter is an exceptional talent, but he’s kind of the “rich kid” on the team. Maybe it’s tough for him to adjust to playing with more blue collar teammates.

  44. Antlerman // October 22, 2017 at 6:40 pm //

    What i would like to know is what a credible source is ? Arash Justin Dunk and Dave Naylor all claimed credible sources for their story. Is it all the same source or different ones .
    Well after watching rhe Calary game it looks like he is well liked in the Rider Dressing room when the whole team comes on rhe feild.to celabrate his Pick 6

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