Eskimos QB James Franklin traded to Argos

Quarterback James Franklin is being traded from Edmonton to the Argos, per sources.

Toronto acquires exclusive negotiating rights as he’s a pending free agent in February. Sources say a few CFL teams inquired about trading for Franklin throughout 2017.

Canadian offensive lineman Mason Woods was sent Edmonton for a third rounder as part of the deal.

Over three seasons in Edmonton, Franklin completed 116-of-176 passes (66 completion rate) for 1,449 yards and 12 touchdowns against one interception. He’s carried the ball 18 times for 145 yards and one touchdown. The 26-year-old’s last start came in 2016 when he lit up Toronto connecting on 18-of-23 passes for 335 yards and four touchdowns in a 41-17 Eskimos victory.

Franklin was originally added to the green and gold’s negotiation list while playing at the University of Missouri in the SEC. He was off for a little while when attending Detriot Lions training camp in 2014, but after sparse use the Eskimos readded him suspecting he could be let go and indeed that was the case. Then Franklin signed with Edmonton in April 2015.

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126 Comments on Eskimos QB James Franklin traded to Argos

  1. Well that’s one QB off the board for everyone to speculate about. I’d wager than a trade sending Zach Collaros to Regina may be the next domino to fall.

    • Gene Upshawed // December 11, 2017 at 1:42 pm //

      LOL! How exactly does his $500K contract land in Regina?
      Again, LOL!

      Also: He would be the third best QB on that roster.

      • Gene Upshawed // December 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm //

        Oh, and he’s not even close to being “off the board.” If he does not sign a contract with the Argos before February, he’s a free agent and can sign with any team (even the Esks). All this does is give the Argos a head start in negotiating with him. Nothing more.

        • These deals rarely happen without the team knowing they can sign the player being acquired. The acquiring team is generally granted permission to speak with the agent of the player being acquired. It is not tampering if the owning team grants the permission.

          In fact I can’t remember a single instance of a pending free agent being acquired and not signing with the team who acquired them. I expect a contract will be announced within the next 2 or 3 days.

          • riderontheisland // December 11, 2017 at 5:30 pm //

            Adam, I partly agree with you that there would have been discussions but I don’t expect them to sign right away as I’ve heard reports that Franklin intends on tasting the NFL and with Ray still in the fold I expect he will at least try that for the remainder of this season. Not to say that he won’t sign with the Argos before he is an FA, but not right away.

          • 2 instances both historically involving the Argos and suprizingly the riders ; 1) Kevin Glen as a youngster, rights traded to Toronto ( rider sgo with nelon green as starting qb0 Toronto flips Glens rights to Winnipeg , Glen never plays a down of football for argos .
            2.) Drew Willey —- again , willey’s rights traded by riders to Toronto ( riders go with established starter Durant ) Agros flip right Willeys rights to again Winnipeg , sadly Willey in this case comes back a couple years later to argos as damaged goods—- Winnipeg makes out well in trade 1st round pick /starting db, Willey shits the bed in TO , hmmmmmmm charma bites argos , could it happen again ?????????? bridge (signed by riders , flipped to Toronto for franklin if ray reruns ??????)

          • @getfit51 That’s not right. Willy’s rights went directly from the Riders to the Bombers for the rights to Jade Etienne. Both players signed immediately with their new teams.

      • I’m pretty sure that any deal with Collaros will come with a reduction in salary to about $250k per year, if he tries to stick to getting $500k per year I doubt he’ll be playing next year period.

        • $250k should buy a team more than zero and 12.

        • Keith, James Franklin made a lot more sense to the Green and White. First, Franklin was a quarterback that Chris Jones brought through the Eskimos organization and he did extremely well for his limited opportunities as a starter. Secondly, Zach Collaros commands a huge salary and was a major drop-off from a few years past. Thirdly, Collaros is 29 years old, Franklin 26 and Brandon Bridge 25. With the salary that Collaros would demand, it would have to be considerably less than what he currently earns. I think the Riders will stick with what they have in Brandon Bridge and develop the younger quarterbacks. I personally believe the Riders owe it to Bridge for the season he had, but time will tell I guess. I have to admit that I’m eating crow. I assumed the Riders would be a frontrunner for the services of James Franklin. I guess the Eskimos felt the pressure to get something done now before he became a free agent. And I also believe the Eskies also had no inkling at all to allow Franklin to be in the western division, especially with the Roughriders.

          • That’s kind of the thing. Franklin is no longer on the table, unless Jones pulls something with the Argos, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility. The remaining options are Bridge who Jones may or may not be sold on as the full time starter or someone else.

            Collaros would likely get released from Hamilton or traded, There’s no way that he will remain at a $500k price tag after last year so if Jones had a shot at him for $250k I think he’d take it. The guy has produced in the past. Who knows a change in scenery may be just what he needs.

    • If Tommy Condell gets the HC gig in Montreal, Collaros will end up there.

  2. That was “sorta” of a surprise.

  3. I guess Franklin comes cheaper than Zach and Is probably more willing o be a backup to Ray for a year at least.
    Zach to Regina or Montreal ? I still think that BC may be an option for Zach. Lula could back up and ‘groom’ Masoli

    • theonlydispassionateriderfan // December 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm //

      What does BC do with Jennings? He’s still under contract for one more year. He’s an expensive back up if Collaros goes to BC.

      Lulay has also stated several times that he will not play outside of BC because he doesn’t want to move or leave his family behind. Lulay will either re-sign in BC or retire.

  4. White Horse // December 11, 2017 at 1:19 pm //

    One good season with Ricky Ray as mentor will assure Argo’s future in the CFL. Good job Argos!

    • That’s what I see too. Tutelage under Ray & Trestman for a year with lots of game starts.
      Best Argo acquisition since Ricky Ray.

    • Wonder how many Argo fans will show up now that James Franklin is part of the double blue? Shouldn’t be so sarcastic, but the city that shows so little interest in their organization is the one that reaps the benefits of a Grey Cup and a future star quarterback. Pick it up, Toronto!!!

  5. habbernack // December 11, 2017 at 1:22 pm //

    Argos proactive…Reed sitting back. Als need a QB. IMO the mtl pro sports teams are all suffering from the Peter Principle in their organizations.

  6. Guys, this doesn’t mean much. He is still a free agent in February. This just enables the Argos to try to sign him before he hits free agency.

    • Guy, you think they trade a No 8 overall pick without at least an agreement in principle on contract? Dollars to donuts Franklin is signed in TO before February.

  7. Wow just when I was starting to buy into the Collaros > Argos idea. I wonder if he wanted too much money or if his lack luster performance this season cost him.

  8. Franklin insists on starting in 2018, so Argos will need to free up Ray for either coaching or a trade. Looks like Jeff Matthews will also be expendable. Fajardo and young Dakota Prukop will likely remain with the Argos unless a useful trade can be made for one of them. Franklin will command fairly big money ($400k), and along with Ray’s salary, somethings got to give. Possibly Argos have another trade in mind for Franklin… musical chairs in the CFL.

  9. Prove me wrong // December 11, 2017 at 1:39 pm //

    I would not be surprised if Fraklin opts to become a free agent, test the NFL market, and if he does not sign down south, let the bidding war begin. The same could be said for gangrene’s Bridge.

    • greenenvy? // December 11, 2017 at 2:06 pm //

      He’s in TO to stay. Get over it. Talks likely already have been held with his agent. Did Reilly wait for Wpg when Hervey traded for his negotiation rights? Did Durant wait for FA after the trade with the deadline close or sign with Mtl? Lalji just said in a tweet last week that though many assume Franklin wants to work with Jones because he did before, that’s a FALSE assumption. You now have proof positive. Like every thing in Riderland – Jones WILL win a Cup, if not the 1st year then the 2nd, & now the 3rd, Franklin WILL wait till FA to sign with Jones, there’s truth & green fact. Time to wake up.

  10. theonlydispassionateriderfan // December 11, 2017 at 1:40 pm //

    Still has to sign. All the Argo’s did was acquire his exclusive negotiating rights ahead of February’s free agency. Franklin can still explore options in the NFL (as has been reported) or wait for free agency and pick his team. Toronto could also turn around and trade him again if they can’t get him to sign. Not saying he won’t sign in Toronto but nothing is close to final at this point.

  11. Still. Have to sign him!

  12. Jim Popp is one smart GM.

  13. Popp isn’t dumb. Those sask fans thinking they can still get him during FA in Feb are kidding themselves. This trade doesn’t happen unless an “understanding” was reached. My guess is Ray is retiring and Franklin has agreed to $200,000- $250,000 range in base plus bonus potential.
    So what next sask??

    • theonlydispassionateriderfan // December 11, 2017 at 4:46 pm //

      Trade for BLM, do well in the regular season, then choke in the Grey Cup? Maybe that’s next.

    • Everyone has seen the progress the Riders have made in the last two years donkey including you. That’s why you’re infatuated with them. I’m sure Chris Jones has a plan and we both know it will work. I don’t think BLM (pick 6) is in his plans. He actually wants to win a grey cup.

      • lolololololol you are right about that realgreen!
        BLM definitely isn’t in Chris Jones plans. That’s for 2 reasons.
        1)-He knows Calgary wouldn;t be dumb enough to trade him
        2- He knows he has nothing to offer Calgary in a trade. Calgary doesn’t need:
        An over priced import O-lineman
        An over priced back up Canadian running back
        An over the hill over priced Chad Owens
        A high maintenance, over hyped receiver

  14. greenonions // December 11, 2017 at 1:58 pm //

    Rider fans are still hoping they get him in free agency? I have, among others, said a) Esks would trade him to the East before FA b) He would not go to Regina. Look, Ray will be brought back to TO & mentor Franklin. The GC will not change that. TO was looking for a young guy. How big a package did they put together for Collaros earlier this year? Franklin is a perfect match for TO, with Trestman & Ray to show him the ropes. He will get paid big bucks for 1st string QB & Ray will get a raise to mentor him with incentives if he falls flat. It’s not like the owners are paupers. They make the Riders look like house servants. Great deal for TO. Great deal for the league as the next star lands in the big smoke. You REALLY think Franklin will wait till FA JUST to sign with Jones? WOW. Step out of Dreamland & into the real world if that’s where you’re at.

    • lots of possibilities left, many sign and trade deals occur depending on how the rest of the off season plays out. 1 ) what does Ray do now ??? that could influence Franklins desire to sign as FA, 2.) Where does Bridge sign, and how does the ratio rule discussion play out 3) free agency and other needs by teams , what will happen , ergo , as a Rider fan I didn’t see them getting rid of armti edwards via trade, but we needed an olineman with best retiring , Toronto needed proven recievers and we had a ton , soooooooo anything can happen until the first football flys next year.

  15. They will sign him the gave up Woods in the deal. They wouldn’t give up atop OL prospect for nothing

  16. Good ole “Sources” say? This article once again tells anybody anything. It’s known Franklin wants and is testing the NFL waters. Franklin has been sitting as a back up to Reilly all these years, and has not really got the chance to show what he can do long term. But what has been seen, he’s a positive force. To Argos? Didn’t see that coming, but yep Jim Popp likes to cover his angles. Smart move on Argos part, still chance of Collaros going to Toronto, but looks doubtful. Probably see Masoli re-signing with Cats and with all the publicity around Manziel, and June June’s premature comments regarding the Manziel rumours. Looks like Ti-Cat QB situation will be sorted out very soon. Very interesting 2018 in the CFL just to see what team has who starting at QB.

  17. I can’t help but think of the movie The Replacements when I hear the name Franklin:
    “The football’s like a one-man cold to Clifford Franklin. Clifford Franklin’s the only man catchin’ it, Clifford Franklin’s the only man comin’ down wid it.”
    I Clifford may be James’ cousin. Good movie, great quotes. LOL.

  18. Edward Leslie // December 11, 2017 at 2:36 pm //

    James Franklin should be a tremendous starting quarterback in the CFL. It’s a smart move by Jim Popp to acquire his neg rights.
    Still, I seem to remember two other highly regarded Eskimos backups: Jason Maas and Stefan LeFors who both failed badly as starters in Hamilton and Winnipeg respectively. So it would be best if Ray sticks around for one more year as a mentor to Franklin. Fajardo as #3.
    I don’t see Franklin signing in the NFL either, but it’s not unprecedented. Calgary lost both Ben Stanley and Erik Kramer to the NFL. Kramer actually was more successful in the NFL than in the CFL.
    Lastly, I think Brock Sunderland made a nice addition with Mason Woods, one of the top O-line prospects in last year’s draft. Added to Simeon Rottier, Matt O’Donnell, David Beard, Jacob Ruby and Danny Groulx, gives the Eskimos great Canadian depth there. They might start four Canadians in the Offensive line in 2018.

  19. Edward Leslie // December 11, 2017 at 2:39 pm //

    Ben SANKEY, I should say was the Stamps backup QB who tried the NFL for a while. I have no clue who Ben Stanley is. LOL

    • pantsonfire // December 11, 2017 at 3:33 pm //

      Have you also heard of Tracy Ham who backed up Damon Allen, who backed up Matt Dunigan? They were all on the roster together one time. All of them are HOF’ers. You can find lots of guys who didn’t pan out but that’s not always the case. Franklin has about the same amount of experience as Bridge but better results. Yet Rider fans extol Bridge who is very inaccurate as a passer. Franklin has way more upside. Came from a big US school, won a Bowl, was MVP in a Bowl game, beat some powerhouses. Bridge had a so-so college career.

  20. BleedzGreen // December 11, 2017 at 2:48 pm //

    Helluva price to pay for negotiating rights. At 6’9” 320 lbs. Woods is a beast.

    Esks made off like thieves.

    • Mason Woods has potential but still somewhat raw at not fully known if his potential will translate into something.

  21. It’s interesting. The narrative we’ve heard for the last year was Franklin to Sask because he wanted to be reunited with Chris Jones. I hope rider fans learn not to speculate like it’s fact. A little humble pie can cause a lot of indigestion can’t it rider fans?

    • Donkeyisstillanidiot.com // December 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm //

      Donkey is still an idiot…

      • No need for insults. I know emotions in riderville are raw over this news- It’s like buying a new dress, getting your hair done, a professional makeup job then showing up to the prom and seeing your date dancing with someone else. The only difference, he was never your date. It was all in your mind.

        • BleedzGreen // December 11, 2017 at 3:33 pm //

          Au contraire little troll… Insults are always warranted in your case. Isn’t that what butters your bread?

          Pathetic.

        • greenenvy? // December 11, 2017 at 3:44 pm //

          Not to worry Red. Speaking of donkeys, Sliders are a lot like Buridan’s ass. If you don’t know the story look it up. The Ass sat on the fence unable to make ip its mind resulting in disaster. While Popp took action, Jones sat. Should he appease the Slder base & sogn Bridge, knowing that decreases the chances of landing Franklin? What to do? What to do? Oops too late.

          • You have absolutely no idea what Jones and Sunderland may or may not have discussed so stop sounding like a pompous…donkey. Sunderland has stated that his first choice was to trade Franklin to an eastern team and the icing was that he got a very good return for the rights for TO to negotiate a deal with Franklin.

            You sound more and more like that other jackass everyday and you’re quite likely one and the same. Surely there can’t be 2 people with the same warped view of every situation.

          • HEY JOKEL , Franklin is NOT the next coming of Joe Montana, he is NOT Foootballs gift to the QB fall of FAME , he has had a TON of hype but limited playb , last I looked a season IS 18 games!!!! not a throw here or there ( granted in 2015 he played lights out as a raw Rookie with NO TAPE , but got OWNED in Calgary by labor day once teams knew what to expect. This year almost all his play was gardgage time other them the Winnipeg MELT down. ( 4td’s in 6 throws the BUMBER Db’s pooped the bed like in the west semi then Franklins talent being the reason . Don’t forget , Riders still have Adams in the wings , hmmmmm Popp gave BC a 1st round over all pick for his rights , hmmmmmmmm, Adamslike franklin had a very good , .coledge career , big time as in not just a bowl game but NATIONAL title game!!!!! Sooooo evn if Riders resign Bridge , — stick with Adams, Williams , Glen theyb will be ok . Franklin mightof been nice but he is not necessary!!!

        • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:52 pm //

          Indigestion? By the way horsee, I recall one proud fan spouting about his team all year. Ever get over that emotional loss to Toronto? I recall that you were quite devastated with the loss and fumble that was returned for a touchdown. All the Stamp player had to do was go down without fumbling the ball. A 10-point victory was already assured had he went down. But I think they call that the Argo Bounce. Your insults go round-and-round, just like a horse on the racetrack. No need to rub remarks like that unless you’re willing to take some of your own.

        • I think you know all about getting your makeup and hair done. Lol.

  22. Mason Woods is a hefty price for a the rights to Franklin! Hopefully he signs!

  23. Rider Girl // December 11, 2017 at 3:30 pm //

    Franklin was an unproven product just like Mr. Jenkins and BC he’s too small to play in the NFL to Trono is the perfect fit for him and yes bridges will be back in Saskatchewan

  24. I wasn’t 100 percent convinced Franklin would end up here anyway and Edmonton was dead set on avoiding at all costs Franklin either resigns or goes East. Franklin does not want to be behind a proven vet anymore either but Ray met be done or back only one more season. As for Chris Jones who knows what he has in plan exactly for QB’s. He likely has a few paths in mind. No way he pays Collaros 500+. He may go with the same but Bridge starting. How much does he like Marquis Williams? Massoli and Harris still unsigned. I know enemies and haters of the Riders do not want us to have a star QB because we never had a Mitchell, Rielly, Ray, Nichols, or Harris and came within seconds of making it to the Grey Cup. No other team in the league would have made it as far with the duo we had at the time. None of those teams would have been able to or would have given our Canadian QB a fair shot like CJ did. So go back to your holes and when the next article is posted and has nothing to do with the Riders, like many articles, go ahead and consume your mind with the Riders again since that’s what many think about 24/7. You follow the Riders more than your own team

    • You hit it right on the nail with some of the commentors, Mr. Green. It’s not only horsee that has a hatred on the green and white, there are several other eskie fans as listed above.

      • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 4:56 pm //

        NO hatred for the riders. I’m just stating a fact. Has the narrative not been Franklin being in Regina next year? I’m I making that up?

        • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:36 pm //

          And I’m one of those that believed had the Eskimos let Franklin go in free agency, the Roughriders would have been the frontrunner for his services. I personally don’t think the Eskimos were willing to trade Franklin to the Roughriders unless a player like Nathan Roosevelt were available. The Eskimos wanted Franklin in the eastern division, period. But of interest, this deal is finalized between both Edmonton and Toronto, but pending upon what Ricky Ray wishes to do. If he officially retires, Franklin will be the new Argos starting quarterback. Should Ray decide to play another season, the Argos will likely have to trade Franklin to Saskatchewan or any other team, because Franklin will only play if he is given a shot as a starter. Interesting scenarios ahead.

      • CFLFan2789 // December 11, 2017 at 5:31 pm //

        Did you ever think the Rider fans bring it on themselves with the way they act here, on social media, in the stands, and just all around?

        • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:37 pm //

          Along with several others from other cities and provinces.

        • Awe..you ok?

          • CFLFan2789 // December 12, 2017 at 9:27 am //

            I’m fine, judging by some Rider fan comments they’re not…although the rest of Canada already knew that

          • Speaking from experience Realgreen. Take the blinders off and you’ll see. You are NOT gods gift to the CFL as you all arrogantly think. Really this whole act is getting tiresome to the rest of he league. Grow up greenies

    • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 5:23 pm //

      MR Green:
      “No other team in the league would have made it as far with the duo we had at the time”
      How far did you go exactly? This is a 9 team league and you made it to the final 4 with a 10-8 record and 4th in west. You took advantage of a weak east division. You were sub .500 vs the west. You relied on freak receivers and Willie Jefferson. Your QB play wasn’t very good at all. Go back and look at the stats.

      • riderontheisland // December 11, 2017 at 6:33 pm //

        Ghostrider, it’s called a team and our team made it to 1 drive of the final. Oh ya and that week East won the Grey Cup jackass. If you read the posts instead of trying to spread your Rider hate (really jealousy) you would see that none of us believed we had the best starting QB situation, but Jones worked it well and there isn’t a damn thing you can say to deny that. The QB situation will be stronger next year and so will the Riders

        • And you lost to that same eventual GreyCup champ too. You had a powder puff team the week before. If the riders played the playoffs in the west they would have been schooled by either Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary.

          • riderontheisland // December 12, 2017 at 11:33 am //

            What are you 6 years old, but that would be insulting all grade 1s everywhere. You must be a Stumps fan because they above all don’t understand that come playoff time it’s time to step up and that’s what all teams do……….except the Stumps of course.

    • As I said above , don’t forget ADAMS , he as raw rookie had a couple wins playing for MTL 2 years ago, Poop gave a 1st round pick for him— Crafty Jones got him from montreal for a 4th rounder //// after QB , a FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR more high profile program then either Bridge or Fanklin.

      • riderontheisland // December 12, 2017 at 11:35 am //

        very good point and that’s why the Riders will be strong at QB next season is that we have options. I am very curious to see what Adams can do. Arm strength is all I worry about with him.

  25. CFLFan2789 // December 11, 2017 at 4:23 pm //

    Cue the Rider fan backpedalling in 3…2…1

  26. Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 5:01 pm //

    Now riderfans turn their attention to Callaros. Now it’s a no brainer he goes there. Like a spoiled child, rider fans always think they should have the biggest present under the Christmas tree.
    By not getting the Franklin trade done- which was supposed to be his signature move during his sask tenure- it’s clear sask has no Canadian talent or tradeable commodities. Another Jones failure

    • CFLFan2789 // December 11, 2017 at 5:29 pm //

      Well put, they think it’s their divine right merely because they’re the “Riders” and every player wants to go there. Couldn’t be further from the truth, maybe this will teach them a little humility. Although judging by the comments I see that’s an impossible task

      • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:39 pm //

        Maybe you should read other blogs perhaps on sportsnet how some of the oilers and flames fans talk. Wake up!!!

        • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 5:47 pm //

          I for 1 , just did read from a different site. Riderville. The theory going on there is this is just step 1 of a 3 way deal that sees Franklin ending up in Sask. That just proves the narcissism of rider fans. Every thing that happens some how involves the riders. Sorry it ain’t happening
          Kiss the Franklin train goodbye.

          • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:55 pm //

            Oh, so you follow the Riders. Are you one from the closet? Or are you one that has to read everything because of jealousy? And as far as your comment on Franklin goes, we will see. No, I am not kissing anything just yet.

          • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:57 pm //

            Just went on the Riderville website to confirm your story. There is absolutely nothing on the site.

          • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 8:54 pm //

            On rider site under riderfans main discussion, article “James Franklin traded to Toronto”, starting at comment 96.

        • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 6:07 pm //

          Greenrider89
          I hate to prove you wrong- yet again
          There absolutely is this discussion going on. Read the posts regarding Franklin being traded. It’s discussed within this. I don’t make things up.

          • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 7:32 pm //

            Get serious? Riderville? I’ve looked Riderville up. You have nothing telling, or showing, this on riderville.com. And you haven’t proven anything to me. Until the trade is consummated and James Franklin is in double blue, will I believe it. And personally, we have a quarterback in Brandon Bridge who is quite capable. Maybe he doesn’t have the credentials of a big-name school behind him, but he has won games as a starter, and also when Kevin Glenn had been yanked from the starting role which occurred several times during the latter part of the season. Nobody broke my bubble or took my Christmas present away as some are spouting off. There’s a few on the Rider stories that just love to rub Rider fans because the other team stories seem to be rather boring. Hope you aren’t one of them.

        • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 8:50 pm //

          On rider site under riderfans main discussion, article “James Franklin traded to Toronto”, starting at comment 96.

          • Ghostrider, maybe you should get your facts straight then whether it’s “Riderville” or “Rider Site” before spouting off comments like that. Confusing comments such as that makes your credibility shoddy, to say the least.

    • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 5:38 pm //

      That’s garbage talk. Get over your jealousies, buddy.

    • Or Jones and admin , laughted there asses off regarding WhAT the ESKIMOES wanted FROM the RIDER’s for Fraklins rights , —- Again if the DUDE is as good as ya’all think he will be a NFL QB and Toronto just got HOSED and NOTHING for a oline top 10 pick. Last time they talked the ESK’s unrealistic ask was NAman a 1000+ yeard receiver , hmmmmmmmm come to think of it WHY wer they asking for a Reciever given they keep SAYING they HAVE The BEST already in the league , lol.

      • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 7:35 pm //

        Good comment. The eskies weren’t about to make any trade with the Riders unless it was disproportionate in value. That’s kind of the eskies way hoping that rivals don’t move past them. As I’ve said, Bridge raised a lot of eyebrows in Riderville with his solid performances. And a bonus, he is Canadian.

        • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 8:13 pm //

          How is Bridge being a Canadian a bonus? It’s actually irrelevant. QB nationality plays no importance.
          The only eyes brows Bridge raised were those of the obsequious riders fans

          • You are partly correct when it comes to nationality at the QB position. I suspect in future go-rounds that a Canadian QB will count in Canadian/American ratios, whether this year or the following year. And it is a sad shame that the CFL has always overlooked the Canadian quarterback ratio situation. By the way, your jealousy of the Roughriders is sickening. Is it too much to ask a troll like yourself to grow up instead of acting like an immature kid???

      • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 8:05 pm //

        Well getfit51
        Whatever the case, The Argos got him and have taken a big step to secure their QB future. The riders haven’t……bottom line. Smart “zinger” reply from you aside 🙂

        • your right the argos are in the drivers seat regarding Franklin, a ricky ray decision on playing also has not been released or arrived at . obviously if Ray is done the argos will move heaven and earth to sign and retain franklin ( barring him cracking a nfl roster ). why the bridge factor is significant is as pointe dout here before the franklin move by many , bridge is a Toronto kid—— the ratio rule is possibly changing for next year and a a cdn qb starting counts as 1 of the 7 required giving a team more flexibility in lineup. and the argos have often played music f/a’s regading qb signing in the past. glen/willey moved—- ray /joseph stayed and played

    • maybe , Colaros as training camp fodder at a 200k contract, nothing more. Colaros would have to pay light loight light outn in TC even to stay on roster at 200k. Rider shave young guns developmentally behind Glen ;;; adams /Williams even if bridge does not sign. Jones will take QB money if nothing plays out , go all in with 1 year contracts for killer d-free agents , try to win GC in 2018 , 14-1ish with glen as qb and dominate See Calgary NOT scoring an offensive touchdown this year against riders D as proof possible.

  27. Colour me green // December 11, 2017 at 6:19 pm //

    This happens all the time. Edmonton knows he won’t sign with them due to Reilly. So now they get something for him. He doesn’t have to sign, will try the NFL and likely sign with one of the CFL teams.

  28. Good move by Sunderland and the Eskimos. Got 1 and potentially 2 good players for him. Getting those guys is better than letting him leave and get NOTHING. Only way I see him staying in Toronto or the CFL is if he is not signed by a NFL team by or before Feb. 15th and all the stars line up for him perfectly in Argo land. Worth the risk by Popp to potentially getting your starting QB for many years to come. Franklin’s potential is thru the roof in my opinion.

    • esks gave up the 3rd round pick AND franklin in the deal, getting only woods back , the 3rd rounder was probably a tbd payer in draft back for getting woods for nothing if Franklin makes an nfl team. So Toronto gets something for woods not just a riskey move to many get franklin signed.

  29. People….why would Franklin sign In Toronto for back-up money to back up Ray for a year. He could have done that in Edmonton and told them point blank NO! He’s either going to the NFL or going to free agency in February to pick his best situation…..which will be with starter money…..and we know that those opportunities exist be it Mtl, Sask or elsewhere, depending on who’s sitting where when the music stops.

  30. Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 6:42 pm //

    I wonder how long it is before jealous rider fans turn this into a Toronto bashing story for their poor attendance. Come on! One of you is thinking of doing it. Admit it!

    • greenrider89 // December 11, 2017 at 7:36 pm //

      Why don’t you start it? You seem to be sparking lots of controversy yourself. Go ahead.

      • Ghostrider // December 11, 2017 at 8:01 pm //

        Greenrider89
        Actually….I just looked above. You already did start!!! lololol. Just I said some rider fan would! Man I know you guys like the back of my hand.

    • I admit it freely, unless toronto does some serious marketing ( now having all the tools and momentum of the offseason — defending grey cup champions //// having the rights to the media consensus NEXT great cfl hall of fame qb in franklin — if they don’t get 18-20k solid season ticket holders for 2018CFL season how will they ever reach that mark moving forward. as well I wonder how MOTIVATED franklin will be having to play infront of 7 fans and a half time show as it stands now moving forward!!!! this si aguy that is used to playing in stadiums of 50k plus in college and 30ish k in Edmonton , just saying not bashing !!!!

    • Actually, Ghostrider, the Grey Cup loss by Calgary already included the Toronto bashing of the Stamps. No need to include a makeup story of jealous Rider fans with that Toronto bashing.

  31. Provemewrong // December 11, 2017 at 8:20 pm //

    What grade are you in? Or, if you are out of grade school, I can suggest an ESL course you can take. But by all means, at least have your Mom proofread your posts in the future.

  32. It was obvious that Franklin’s rights would be traded to an eastern team as I have been saying for a year now. I honestly thought Hamilton, but Toronto works too with Mason Woods coming back to fill the national o-line needs. To give up a 3rd rounder is the price of waiting and the risk that Franklin could still go to the NFL. Yet, the Argos must have received permission to talk to Franklin’s agent and must have a good feeling they could sign him.

    If the Eskies can re-sign David Beard who had a bit of a breakout year and Chris Kelly or Joel Figeroua the Eskies could have 4 and down the road are building to have 5 Nationals on their o-line. Woods playing behind or next to O’Donnell on the right side makes a lot of sense. Roy will eventually take over for Sorensen …. Ruby will back-up Beard or event take over for him if he was to be moved to his natural RT position from his U of A days.

    QB Eli Jenkins was signed to fill the Franklin void. the Eskies need to sign one more QB for camp, but it is the start. Once declared the best QB in Alabama, but Jenkins is more of a mobile QB and is not as pure of a passer as Franklin.

    The bigger news today … Torey Hunter jumped ship to the Lions to be with Hervey! This limits the Eskies ability to fill some of its international voids unless Brock Sunderland can fill the void quickly.

    • To clarify I meant the price the Argos had to pay for waiting was Woods and a 3rd rounder … it is obvious they have a good idea that Franklin will sign rather than go to the NFL, but if there was no risk the Eskies could have picked up Woods and a first rounder.

  33. CFLFan2789 // December 11, 2017 at 8:53 pm //

    Coming on here it plain to see why the Riders are the most classless fans in the CFL. Anyone who dare say a bad word (even truthful) about their beloved team and they start insulting you right away. Grow up greenies

  34. Greenrider you need to get your facts straight, as well as some of the other RIder gang. You keep mentioning Jones brought Franklin in. Franklin was on the Esks negotiation list prior to Jones arriving in 2014. Franklin was on the Detroit Lions PR in 2014, he was dropped off the Esk neg list & then put on again in 2015 after the Lions didn’t pan out. Hervey was the one who was following Franklin, not Jones. Jones did not play Franklin at all until Nichols blew his chance & then only played him due to this. As soon as Reilly came back, he was sat. It should also be mentioned, as it has by others before, that last week Lalji stated and I quote, “One place I would not expect him to land is #Riders. Many assume the fact that he and Jones have worked together before is a positive. False assumption.” If Franklin goes to free agency, the chance of that being extremely unlikely, the Riders are not the likely destination. Darren, who looks like an Eskie guy, has been saying the same thing as I have & a number of others outside Regina – namely, like Lalji, the Riders are not a preferred destination & the connection with Jones is largely just talk from the Rider side. How many high profile ex-Esks have gone to the Riders? You raved about getting Foster, Andrew Jones, Kendrick Lawrence & Chambers when Jones came over. You didn’t get any of the big fish in 2016 like Sewell, Bowman & Sheritt. Two of the original 4 who came over ran back to Edmonton. Korrey Jones was on your roster & ran back to Edmonton. The connection with Jones is WAY overblown.

    • It has been stated by current players that Jones was very disliked by some of his former players, branded as controlling, egotistical and a traitor in the end. Franklin will look good in the double blue

    • corey jones RAN yep indeed, as HE WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to keep a job in Sask , hmm mmm, NO interst AT ALL IN Bowman ( he WAS a rider and dropped about as many balls as he does now , hmmmmmm was sitting behind some guy named DRESSLER !!! in Sask, Sewall well, not that much interest as well, injured more then playing house in Edmonton more then out of it !!!! for being a mostly lazy !!! that played when the spirit moved him.and still does , can be invisable for games at a time and then when wanting to play is lights lout agreed but that is rare!!!!! ohh by the way soe guy named Willie Jefferson was one of those eskimoes that followed Jones as well, pretty selective memory their buddy !!!! works oth ways

      • greenenvy? // December 12, 2017 at 6:44 pm //

        Bowman drops far less balls than Carter hmmmmmmmm. Do the math. You DO know how to do math. Sewell is only a CFL all-star 5 straight seasons & EVERY team would take him. And yet you still covet all the ex-Jones Eskimos. Still crying over Franklin & secretly believe SOMEHOW he’ll end up in Regina. Sure you got Jefferson – that’s one good FA. But how many didn’t “reunite” with CJ? You were all in on Walker – sorry. You guys talked it up about Grymes – nope. And now Franklin – sucks to be a Rider fan. Oh well, there’s budding superstar Bridge (ha ha ha ha ha). Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

  35. Provemewrong // December 11, 2017 at 11:04 pm //

    Gangrene have now seen their two “franchise” QBs move on to greener (get the pun) pastures. Jones (the big brain trust) is stuck with Glen. HAHAHAHAHA… Another losing year for gangrene.

    • hmmmm 10-8 is a loosing year ????? you must have done your math in Calgary school. the same kind of school that teaches you win championships by choking in the playoffs !!!!!! and having a good regular season.

      • Provemewrong // December 12, 2017 at 1:02 pm //

        Speaking of education “getfit51” (is 51 your IQ???). Try to use the spellcheck that comes with this site. You write like a 5 year old. And yes, 10-8 was considered as losing in the West Div last year. Resulting in the sliders slide to the East Div. DUH!!

      • greenenvy? // December 12, 2017 at 6:45 pm //

        Well 4th place certainly is. Saved by the crossover pity rule.

  36. I love all the Collaros bashers on here. Hands up how many of you have played Pro football? Now how many as a QB? Zero! That’s what I thought!

    • 0-15 current run as a starting QB , ummmmmmmm bashing deserved !!!!! hec the Cleveland browns would even think that kind of performance is bad for a starting Qb and they should know about BAD quarter backing !!!!!!

      • Especially when you have Manziel, who hasn’t played for Cleveland since 2015, still owning more wins as a Browns starting QB than any of his replacements to date…LOL!

      • greenenvy? // December 12, 2017 at 6:49 pm //

        Well that record would certainly warrant him getting a look from the Riders. Why don’t you look at Glenn’s record as a starter the past few years? He came to Regina after going 0-9 as a starter with the Riders in his last hoedown. Didn’t fare any better in Mtl & spent the rest of the season on the bench in Wpg after the trade. He brought his sparkling starting record to Regina. Why not Collaros? Please check your facts.

  37. Especially when you have Manziel, who hasn’t played for Cleveland since 2015, still owning more wins as a Browns starting QB than any of his replacements to date…LOL!

  38. Another strong move as usual by the Popp/Trestman combo.
    Meanwhile the usual lethargy continues in Tiger-Cat land. What would be a major move would be to get rid of Austin and find a way to wake up Scott Mitchell.He and Jones seem mesmerized by the possibility of the loser Manziel coming to Hamilton. Yawn.

  39. Giving an extension to Jones right now when his apparent plan for a QB over the last two years just blew up. Going into his third year and still no apparent starting QB doesn’t sound like much of a plan. No guarantee that he gets Bridge and could be stuck with Kevin Glenn again. Barring a miracle, the Riders could have the worst pivot in the west…again.

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