Ticats coach Jones says Manziel needs to prepare like a starting QB

There’s a 24-hour rule in football that says a team can only celebrate a win or brood over a loss for a single day before moving on and starting their preparations for the next game. But, given the magnitude of last Friday’s 50-11 dismantling of Johnny Manziel and the Montreal Alouettes, the Hamilton Tiger-Cats can be forgiven for basking in the warm afterglow of victory just a little bit longer.

After struggling to put points on the board during a three-game losing streak, the Ticat offence exploded for five touchdowns while racking up more than 500 yards of offence (a season high). The turnover-deprived defence posted six takeaways that led to 24 points, another problem spot. Essentially, playing the Alouettes was a cure for most of what’s been ailing the Ticats recently.

“It was good to get back on track — it kind of felt like the normal us out there,” said quarterback Jeremiah Masoli, who threw for an even 300 yards with two touchdown passes and another on the ground. “We were just fed up with it, man. Watching the film every week, we were putting up all these yards and not putting up points.”

It was an inauspicious debut for Manziel, who was making his first CFL start less than two weeks after being traded from Hamilton, along with two offensive linemen, for a package of players and draft picks. In addition to the interceptions, Manziel was limited to 104 yards passing and a 55 per cent completion percentage before being pulled at the end of the third quarter.

“I don’t think it mattered that it was against Johnny. He kind of got thrown into the fire,” said safety Mike Daly, who had one of the interceptions. “The only fun part about it was that you knew a lot of people were watching.”

Daly said whatever debate there was surrounding the trade was a nonfactor inside the locker room where Ticat players knew that sticking with Masoli and moving Manziel on was the right decision.

“The guys in here haven’t wavered once. Did the fans waver a little bit? Maybe. It was upsetting to see because we knew how well Jeremiah was playing,” Daly said. “He’s always been our guy.”

Hamilton head coach June Jones said Manziel’s lack of preparation time was certainly a factor in his poor performance, but that the onus is on him to put the work in now that he’s the man in Montreal.

“It was a growing period while he was here and now he has to start preparing himself as the starter, start coming into the office at 6:30 a.m., spend the long hours until 6 or 7 at night. That’s the kind of commitment you need as a starting quarterback,” Jones said. “Jeremiah is here all the time that I’m here and that’s what it takes to play quarterback in this league.”

Up next for the Ticats is a Friday matchup with the Blue Bombers in Winnipeg. While Hamilton won 31-17 on June 29 at Tim Hortons Field, the Bombers were without starting quarterback Matt Nichols and have won three of their last four since his return.

“Winnipeg is not the same team we played in Week 3,” Jones said. “They’ve improved; they have a different quarterback. I think they’re believing in themselves a whole lot more.”

Of course, so are the Ticats.

NOTES: A number of players missed practice on Monday, including defensive end Adrian Tracy, Canadian defensive linemen Justin Vaughn and Connor McGough, national linebacker Nick Shortill, as well as return man and reserve defensive back Frankie Williams. Tracy and Williams might be ready for Friday’s matchup against Winnipeg, but the others will miss at least a game or two with Vaughn having already been added to the six-game injured list. … The Ticats signed national linebacker Dillon Grondin to the practice roster. He played 15 games for Saskatchewan from 2016 to ’17, making one defensive tackle and six special teams tackles. … The Alliance of American Football has signed its first 100 players. The list includes some former Ticats, including kicker Sergio Castillo, defensive back Will Hill, receiver Brian Tyms and defensive lineman Tyriq McCord.

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Drew Edwards is into his eighth season covering the CFL and the Ticats for the Hamilton Spectator. He is the founder and editor of 3DownNation.
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39 Comments on Ticats coach Jones says Manziel needs to prepare like a starting QB

  1. Tiger man // August 7, 2018 at 9:05 am //

    June Jones was right about Manziel all along. Johnny wasn’t ready to be a starter, even when he left Hamilton.

    I have faith in our coaches and it was borne out last Friday night.

    • Best CFL Fan // August 7, 2018 at 9:25 am //

      Possibly. Or Alouettes are just so awful that Tom Brady couldn’t get a win if he took over.

    • Johnny X. Quarterback // August 7, 2018 at 10:45 am //

      That is the only thing June Jones got right about Johnny Benched.

      Manziel only did one thing right in that game. He made two solid tackles after his INTs. What he should prepare himself for is his future as a defensive back. That’s his only long-term option as a pro football player.
      The circus is over.

    • Manziel has been a consummate student of the game since he has been in Montreal. According to what I hear, he has been in the facility early and working hard with Jones who he has chemistry with. He spends time with Sherman as well as taking first team reps.

      He was throwing high, that is just adrenaline. To be honest, I am far more worried about our D than Johnny Football. He was put in too early and left there by his HC for a reason. Humility is a gift from God- think Sherman was making sure he has a good dose of it.

      Good luck Johnny, you will have lots of time to get even with those Cats.

      • Tiger man // August 7, 2018 at 12:11 pm //

        “He was put in too early and left there by his HC for a reason. Humility is a gift from God- think Sherman was making sure he has a good dose of it. ”

        Sherman put Johnny in the game to sell tickets and jerseys. Manziel is already on a bad team…that will provide enough humility…the D gives up too many yards…and their O cant score points or gain yardage…

        And Manziel is the ONLY quarterback on the roster…

  2. Bombsquad // August 7, 2018 at 9:45 am //

    June Jones also said that Manziel could become the best football player ever in the CFL. That’s pretty high praise for a player who hadn’t played a down yet in the Canadian league. Now Jones says Johnny has to put the necessary work in to succeed. It doesn’t take a genius to make a statement like that, of course Manziel has to put the work in to succeed as the starter, that’s certainly not hard to figure out. It seems Jones is hedging his bet a bit and Johnny won’t just be handed those MOP trophies just yet. I think Manziel can succeed but as far as becoming the best player ever in the CFL? That’s a little too much praise before the guy had even thrown a pass that counted.

    • brian johnson // August 7, 2018 at 10:23 am //

      Of coarse he said that. After GM Tillman signed him do you think Jones would say anything less while wanting to trade him for Maximum value.
      Best ever!! Odds are between Zero or less.
      Time to move on from Mr. Disaster.

    • Tiger man // August 7, 2018 at 12:16 pm //

      Now Jones says Johnny has to put the necessary work in to succeed. It doesn’t take a genius to make a statement like that, of course Manziel has to put the work in to succeed as the starter, that’s certainly not hard to figure out.”

      BS…and those who’ve played the game like Dunnigan and Burris have said the same thing. Matt even displayed some anger on the TSN broadcast over the Als decision to play Manziel this early…

      Your sarcasm over what June Jones stated comes off rather silly and petty when there are others more qualified than you fully agreeing with him…

      • Bombsquad // August 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm //

        Maybe June Jones should wait a bit before making such wild proclamations such as Johnny Manziel can be the best player to ever play in the CFL. Maybe June should wait until he’s seen him play a regular season game, maybe even wait until Johnny throws a regular season pass before making such an outlandish statement. You’d think a coach with JJ’s track record would know better than that, but i guess not.

        • As other have pointed out to you already, Jones had everything to gain by praising Johnny’s potential, and nothing to gain by equivocating. The proof of that is in the value he was able to squeeze from Montreal in the trade.

          • Bombsquad // August 7, 2018 at 7:03 pm //

            Other than JJ looking stupid i agree. As far as winning the trade, the only team they have beaten since the trade is the Als, no great feat.

        • Or maybe, just maybe, JJ should have another belt of gin and try again?

  3. Solara2000 // August 7, 2018 at 10:21 am //

    The headline for this story seems to be a dog whistle for all those anti-Manziel fans. It suggests JJ was critical of JOhnny Football but that is not the case; rather JJ is simply saying the Als and Johnny Football’s success are clearly in his wheelhouse and 12 hour days are part of what it takes.

  4. April Whine // August 7, 2018 at 10:38 am //

    Did anyone notice how cold Johnnie was to June after the game? What is becoming clear is Jones is not an honest speaks his mind guy but rather a deceptive double speaker who will say whatever it takes to get what he wants. The over the too praise for John was recruiting BS to get the recruit hooked. Now he is starting to back away from that BS statement by implying John never put in the time at Hammer time. Sherman gave him the start because John came in over the weekend. Maybe June knew Manz would never do that unless he was the starter. I think Hammy fans should be suspicious if anything double talk Jones says.

    • Tiger man // August 7, 2018 at 12:20 pm //

      And the first thing Manziel said when he landed in Montreal was a thank you to the coaches, players and management for their kindness and support…

      You have no idea what was going on in Manziel’s head when he and Jones crossed paths after the game…your supposing does NOT add up to fact…

    • Steve J. // August 7, 2018 at 1:49 pm //

      What nonsense. These guys are professional. Did you ever stop to think that all the high praise was trade bait? I don’t believe the Tiger-Cats thought Manziel was ever going to be the starter in Hamilton and that, by letting him ride the pine, other teams would not see how pedestrian he actually is. Montreal took the bait and paid the price. I still think Manziel may be a decent CFL quarterback some day, but Montreal coughed up a lot and, so far, it doesn’t look like it will yield a high dividend.

  5. The Stills // August 7, 2018 at 10:47 am //

    We will see what Masoli can do against a tough western defence.

  6. The Dears // August 7, 2018 at 10:53 am //

    Essentially this was the first pre season game for John after 2 weeks of TC. Did everyone forget Masoli threw 2 very bad interceptions with the first team offence in little over a quarter in his first pre season game?

  7. It sure would be nice to see just one Ticat post without the word Johnny..

  8. Paul Bomber // August 7, 2018 at 11:20 am //

    When I watched Manziel’s performances, I wasn’t surprised… he looked like a very athletic talented guy who was not on the same page as the rest of the team. Give him some time and a little protection from his OLine and he’ll be a solid QB.
    JJones should shut up and worry about his own team.
    Excited about Friday’s match. I still have my doubts about the D here. Smacking around Masoli and crew (not an easy task) will go a long way towards helping me believe again.

    • Bombsquad // August 7, 2018 at 3:24 pm //

      “JJones should shut up and worry about his own team”

      Ya got that right. The Als beat the Riders, the TiCats were swept.

  9. Manziel will be a good QB. People forget he is only 25. What he has gone through will make him better.

  10. Jones knew probably from training camp that he preferred Masoli for a number of reasons, not the least being that he has been his quarterback since Jones took over as head coach and during that time Masoli has been effective most of time. The praising of Manziel was a very carefully orchestrated sell job on a quarterback that he knew would ultimately be dealt by the Tigercats . With no CFL body of work on his resume he increased the value of his asset the old fashioned way : laying on the bs whenever he could. It worked, Montreal gave up quite a lot in the deal and the two future #1 picks could potentially be high picks, let’s hope this time the tigercats vet the players a little better and they are able to sign him.

    • Tiger man // August 7, 2018 at 12:23 pm //

      The Als also were allowed by Hamilton to contact Johnny before the trade….

      You don’t talk DOWN an asset before you trade it….

    • Steve J. // August 7, 2018 at 1:55 pm //

      Bingo!

    • The only problem with that is that JJ also BS’d the TC faithful…some not taking too kindly to that. I still don’t know why everyone thinks TC’s stole the bank on the deal…Williams and Westerman most likely will be gone next year…and they also gave up a good O Lineman when they shouldn’t haven given up anything. And draft picks? Pfft. Someone please tell me the last time TC’s drafted someone who made a great impact other than a special teams player?

  11. John Bagen // August 7, 2018 at 1:23 pm //

    Oh Lord it’s hard to be humbled….lol

  12. Well it’s well documented in my postings on3down that Masoli is the guy live by the sword die by the sword !

  13. Aside from Manziel having a mediocre arm, pisspoor accuracy, being too dumb to read coverage, and making reckless decisions, he’s also a very LAZY player.

    Manziel was called out publically by Nate Burleson and Joe Thomas for being lazy, and then had the audacity to try and blame Cleveland for not realizing how lazy and dumb he is.

    “If Cleveland did any of their homework they would have known I wasn’t a guy who came in every day and watched film,” Manziel said in a visit to The Dan Patrick Show. “I wasn’t a guy who really knew the X’s and O’s of football.”

    Manziel’s words, not mine.

  14. I believe Jones was referring to Manziel’s physical ability when he said he could be the best player ever to play in the CFL – does not mean that the guy will automatically be the best if he does not put in the work to learn the offence and study defences. Manziel seemed to be the consumate teammate but he may have had trouble getting motivated if he was not seeing the field at all even in garbage time – Jones may be forgetting that part of his job is to motivate the players.

  15. Also, another comment I don’t hear being brought up as it should is, remember June Jones also said that Johnny manziel should be playing in the NFL he is that good. Ya I think Hamilton sold that trade pretty well and got a lot for him. Now Im sure that was a reason he never let him see the field in regular season games. His inexperience with the CFL game would have been a lot more evident.And there were plenty of times to bring him out to let him get a few reps in.

    • Bombsquad // August 7, 2018 at 4:00 pm //

      “Also, another comment I don’t hear being brought up as it should is, remember June Jones also said that Johnny manziel should be playing in the NFL he is that good.”

      Another over the top statement from JJ. I guess if we’re looking at it from a hyperbole standpoint to draw a bigger trade return, it worked. As for the statement itself, only Kavis Reed would fall for that it seems.

  16. Yup I think kavis reed probably felt the pressure and soo desperately wanted to do something big to try and turn this team around. He doesn’t appear to make the smartest decisions sometimes. I have this weird feeling reed will be gone after this season and the poor als will be still be paying for all his questionable decisions long after his departure. I hope the als get turned around and start winning games. I would hate to see them fold(again).

  17. Giant numbers for Eskies and Riders last week both in the stands and on TV! Nearly a million viewers.

    As for JM… gonna take awhile, but he will be good over time. I don’t see him as a leader like Flutie n Dunigan, but they will start winning soon.

  18. I dont see them winning till about week 16.

  19. If Jones thought that Manziel was the second coming of Flutie, the Ticats would have traded Masoli to Montreal instead. Unfortunately for the CFL, looks like Manziel doesn’t have the commitment it would take to reach the potential that apparently Jones thought he had.

    A lot of back handed comments from Jones that, taken together, really indicate that he didn’t think Manziel was dedicated enough. He’s well coached when he speaks to the media, but that’s about it.

    • Correction – TC’s would have traded the entire TC team to Montreal instead. Totally agree with you. A sham right from the start. The guy claims Manziel just may be the best player ever to grace the CFL field and then trades him? Hilarious.

  20. THREE (3) THINGS:

    1) Manziel has a ton of upside potential or he would NOT be in the league period
    2) Jones like ANY other coach in that situation is going to tout a guy like Manzeil because sporting events equal personal entertainment. It is & always will be about bu$ine$$ side of things first
    3) The true issue in Montreal is the lack of DEFENCE honestly thats the most unprofessional looking group of defenders i have seen playing football for quite sometime – just being honest!

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